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Exposing the lies and seeking truth doesn't = Hate. This is not a Kate Hate Site. A 'Kate Hate Site" wouldn't have "Shame on Kate AND Shame on Jon" in the reaction box.

Just a place where bloggers and commenters can share an open discussion on all things related to the Gosselins.

This blog was created to expose the spins and lies shared by the media and by several individuals who continue to spread filth and garbage for their own self-interests.

This blog will expose those who continue to spread lies as "truth" and those who base their beliefs and support for one individual based on those lies.
Pursuing Truth, Exposing Lies and Informing the Sheeple

August 8, 2011

Jon Gosselin - Believe It Or Not, A Message To The Sheeple

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Heard this song (Joey Scarbury - Believe It Or Not) playing in a commercial while watching TV. Images started playing in my head so the thought came to mind to put this video together. Perfect timing too. Same day Kate & TLC released a staged photo-op.

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60 comments:

Anonymous said... [Reply]

OMG, that was really great!!

zee said... [Reply]

Sweet!!!!!

grammier said... [Reply]

That is an amazing piece of work. It's great!

itsaboutthekids said... [Reply]

I always love your videos, jj.

jibberjabbers said... [Reply]

Thanks everyone. After all that, I just realized there is a little grammar error in video. Believe it or not.

Oh wells!

Lauren said... [Reply]

Love it! Jon truly loves his children and they love him.

TPoV said... [Reply]

AMAZING...AS USUAL!

jibberjabbers said... [Reply]

This is a good song. I listened to it 10x already.

Halo24 said... [Reply]

Great video! I'm sure that took some work!

Its obvious Jon loves the children and relates to them better than Kate.

TVsnarki said... [Reply]

This video is wonderful. I hope you don't mind but I posted it on my blog.

I love your work. Thank you.

Diane said... [Reply]

JJ,

My hats off to you! Loved your video. I love all your videos. It shows how sweet Jon is with his kids. They need that affection.

I would rather be poor and have Jon be my Dad than be rich and have Kate be my Mom.

jibberjabbers said... [Reply]

Yeah, Jon's seems to be just more genuine and sincere. The kids are usually more happy when their with Jon.

The kids just seem to be more closer to Jon than they are to Kate.

And if I were those kids, I too would rather have Jon be my parent than Kate. Kate does seem to be "trying" all of a sudden, but it's all show.

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TVsnarki,

No problem, the more viewers the video gets the better.

CJ said... [Reply]

JJ~ just read a very uninteresting article about Sarah Palin. There was a little tidbit that caught my eye. She was paid $100K for the cover picture. Made me think, is Kate paid somewhere near this amount every time she's on a magazine cover?

http://www.parentdish.com/2010/01/22/sarah-palin-does-not-sell-magazines/?icid=main|htmlws-main-n|dl6|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.parentdish.com%2F2010%2F01%2F22%2Fsarah-palin-does-not-sell-magazines%2F

jibberjabbers said... [Reply]

Not sure if Kate was paid or not, but I wouldn't be surprised if she was. Typical double standard on TLC's part.

Kate gets paid, "it's okay, she's working and providing for her kids"..

Jon gets paid, "Jon is in breach of his contract".

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jibberjabbers said... [Reply]

Wrong section. Moved to Free Discussion.

Anonymous said... [Reply]

This place is crazier than GWOP and that is saying something. You are truly what is wrong with this world.

jibberjabbers said... [Reply]

Sheeple just can't stand seeing how happy the kids are with Jon.

Welcome to reality.

Anonymous 8:33am Is Right said... [Reply]

A series of clips with happy music playing is not reality. Hate to break it to you, but someone could string together some of Jon's less than stellar parenting moments and produce the opposite effect. Neither would qualify as "reality." Here's some reality for you: You do not know Jon. You do not know Kate. You do not know the Gosselin children. You do not know how the children feel about either of their parents. You do not know what is going on in any of the Gosselins' lives. Therefore, you cannot claim to know "the truth."

jibberjabbers said... [Reply]

Exactly, it's just a very small sample of what great of a father Jon is.

Jon is closer to his kids than Kate will ever be period. Look at their body language. It tells you a lot when the kids are happy and smiling with Jon, and scared to death when they're with Kate.

Look at Kate smacking her own kid in public. Imagine what she does behind close doors.

Now, go spit your hate elsewhere. Go back to Kaydar and live in your own fantasy world where Kate does no wrong.

Anonymous 8:33am Is Right said... [Reply]

My, my, someone is a tad sensitive. I'm pretty dang sure there was no "hate" to be found anywhere in my post. I'm sorry if reality is so hard for you to both comprehend and accept. I'll try once more before this gets old: YOU DO NOT KNOW THESE PEOPLE. The fact that you think your perception is "truth" and "reality" frankly is rather scary.

You'll note that I haven't offered any opinion on which person I think is the better parent and yet you've made quite an assumption. You know what they say about people who assume.

Oh, and FYI...I've never posted at Radar. I've read there a couple of times and find the comments from both sides repetitive and largely uninteresting. The link to your blog has been posted elsewhere.

Anonymous said... [Reply]

JibberJabbers,
The Jon you have made up here does not exist. You see him as this nice and sweet man. Thats what con men do they entice and use people. Hailey Kate m, Stephanie. Hailey's mom, can't all be lying and wrong. They were duped by Jon and so was Kate Gosselin.
We saw him break TLC contract (no, not because he pulled the kids out, he BROKE the contract)Jon has serious issues that keep mounting up. Soon, I bellieve Morgan will be amongst the tossed aside, a little broke and wounded but forever wiser. Don't idolize Jon, he is far from worthy.

jibberjabbers said... [Reply]

Yeah, he isn't a nice sweet man.. Woman are attracted to him because he's tall dark and handsome. lol

Anonymous said... [Reply]

Jon is a con man. Plain and simple. He tells women what he thinks they want to hear for his own gain. It is succeeding for him now.

Most con men are not tall , dark and handsome. They are vey average looking. I wrote an essay about the "cons" for school. Jon fits the profile to a T.

Anonymous said... [Reply]

From what I have observed, Jon is jumping from one female to another.
He plays the misunderstood and maligned husband to young women.They want to 'rescue' him, and give him money and sex. After a short time his lies and manipultion surface and they see him for what he really is and realize they were used. That is why there is such anger for Jon from his former girlfriends/victims. Just watch, Morgan and her family will probably be on to him by spring.

I think on some level Kate was aware of this aspect in Jon.
She is probably much more aware of it now.

Dunwoody Mom said... [Reply]

OMG sheeple, you are hilariously delusional. I mean, really....

SchmeckyGirl said... [Reply]

Anonymous said:
From what I have observed, Jon is jumping from one female to another.
He plays the misunderstood and maligned husband to young women.They want to 'rescue' him, and give him money and sex. After a short time his lies and manipultion surface and they see him for what he really is and realize they were used. That is why there is such anger for Jon from his former girlfriends/victims. Just watch, Morgan and her family will probably be on to him by spring.
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You know what... that IS possible. None of us KNOW Jon personally. I know I don't. But that really is only one view of him. It's possible that he really was misunderstood and maligned.

Kate herself said she misses the Jon she knew and was married to for ten years. TEN YEARS. That's a long time to be married to someone and not see the side of him you see now. He was not living a double life. Not only that but she treated him crappy. She admitted it so no one can deny it. Besides the fact we saw a lot of it ourselves, edited or not.

Jon didn't just take money from those girls. He bought them things too. I think he bought Hailey some expensive items. I think he really thought he loved her. Possibly. Who knows? Maybe not. But none of us KNOW.

As for Kate Major I think she used him. Maybe Lohan put her up to it because he wanted to use Jon. It's possible. He's dating the girl that was "like a daughter to him" all these years? Disgusting.

I think Jon did get involved with the wrong women. Seriously look at them. They all have lewd pasts and aren't exactly model citizens. I know I wouldn't want my daughters to turn out like any of them.

As for Kate... even if Jon is a horrible person, it doesn't mean she's automatically the good person. They could have been a team of two horrible people out to use others and get famous together. They just turned on each other.

We really don't know everything. Hopefully some day we will. I think there's something more to this story than a normal couple who just happened to have 8 kids and just happened to turn into pseudo celebrities and just happened to turn into the biggest tabloid marriage in pseudo celebrity history.

SchmeckyGirl said... [Reply]

JJ,

No offense and of course this is your blog, etc... but I find it hard to keep up with the conversations when there are a few posts open at once. Maybe it's just me.

Anonymous said... [Reply]

Dunwoody Mom said...

OMG sheeple, you are hilariously delusional. I mean, really....

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The phrase "hilariously delusional" applies to people who put together video clips and label them "truth" and the rest of you who can't differentiate between truth and opinion/perception.

Believe it or not...thanks, I'll go with the "not." I mean, really.

jibberjabbers said... [Reply]

No, this is just a few examples of what kind of a dad Jon is.

These clips are taking from their "reality show", which Kate claims is all real, and nothing is "staged".

The photos were taken at bus stops and so on.

Nothing "fake" about them. The camera just happens to catch the moments.

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You want to talk about fake? Weren't you idiots "gushing" over the staged photo-op by Kate that was posted on Kaydar just a few days ago? LOL.

How can you be against this video (a collection of clips from a reality show, and photos), and be all happy and gushing over a staged photo-op by Kate?

Let's be real. You sheeple hate the fact that the kids seem to be happier with Jon. And it all looks natural and unforced.

When Kate tries to show some affection, it looks fake and forced. And the kids don't show any love back.

This is what pisses you off. The fact that the kids seems uncomfortable with Kate's affection.

Anonymous said... [Reply]

Hi JJ,
I love this blog! I check here daily. Anyway, can you give me a link or site of Kaydar? Thanks.

Anonymous said... [Reply]

jibberjabbers said...
No, this is just a few examples of what kind of a dad Jon is.

The kids are happy to see Jon..because they hardly ever see him. When was the last time he was with them. 2 weeks ago? 3?

Jon's priorities

1. Jon
2. skank of the month
3. Jon
4. staged photo w/kids
5. Jon

itsaboutthekids said... [Reply]

When was the last time he was with them. 2 weeks ago? 3?
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I don't believe anyone except Jon, Kate or the kids (or anyone present 24/7) would have the answer to that. Are you one of these people in the know? If not, why do you guess 2 or 3 weeks ago?

Anonymous said... [Reply]

itsaboutthekids said...
When was the last time he was with them. 2 weeks ago? 3?

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Because Jon ALWAYS makes sure he is photographed with the kids. Remember he is friends with the paps and invites them on the property to take the kids pictures. The Heller PR team would not let an opportunity of Jon being seen with the kids go by.

Anonymous said... [Reply]

You are creating your own version of "reality." Someone else with way too much time on their hands could create a video of happy Kate moments with the kids. You would argue that those moments are fake, but in actuality you don't know what is and isn't real. Neither your video nor a video compilation of Kate/kid happy moments represents reality. That's what you are either incapable of, or unwilling to, comprehend.

Get a grip. The only people who truly know how the kids feel are the kids themselves. You cannot speak for them. I have no idea how each child feels about their parents and neither do you. That is the “truth.” And why do you want to know anyway? Please don’t tell me that it’s because you “care” about the welfare of the children. Anyone who cares about these children would not create a blog dedicated to ripping their mother to shreds. There is nothing good for the children that can come from blogs such as this. It’s incredibly sad that people derive such joy from believing that the kids hate their mother. For the sake of argument, let’s assume that you’re right. Do you really think that’s a good thing? Is your hatred for Kate so rabid that you can’t recognize that the best case scenario for these children is that they have a positive relationship with both parents? What any sane person should hope is that there will be no tell-all books from the kids, no unfortunate returns to the public eye, etc. because they become happy, well-adjusted young adults. But that’s not what you and your fellow GWOP faithful want. You want these kids to have horrible futures because that would somehow validate your opinion of their mother. It’s sickening.

itsaboutthekids said... [Reply]

Anonymous said...
itsaboutthekids said...
When was the last time he was with them. 2 weeks ago? 3?

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Because Jon ALWAYS makes sure he is photographed with the kids. Remember he is friends with the paps and invites them on the property to take the kids pictures. The Heller PR team would not let an opportunity of Jon being seen with the kids go by.

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This is your opinion and a rather flimsy argument. This is not necessarily fact nor does it prove your point. The fact is, most of the time we don't know when Jon or Kate is or is not there. We only now what the camera shows us when they choose to print photographs.

itsaboutthekids said... [Reply]

We only now (know) what the camera shows us when they choose to print photographs.

itsaboutthekids said... [Reply]

"But that’s not what you and your fellow GWOP faithful want. You want these kids to have horrible futures because that would somehow validate your opinion of their mother. It’s sickening."
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This is quite a ridiculous accusation, don't you think? No one wants to hurt those children. Quite the opposite.

You might want to click on the link below and read a bit about this. It directly addresses your concern.
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"What If The Kids Read Your Posts? Arent You Hurting Them"

http://preesi.lefora.com/2010/01/28/what-if-the-kids-read-your-posts-arent-you-hurting/?vm=2#post2

jibberjabbers said... [Reply]

LOL, you obviously never watch the show. There is not that many clips of Kate being "happy" with the kids.

Mayne in Season 1 or early in season 2. But after her tummy tuck and her "boob" job, she changed. It became more about "her" and less about the kids.

Sure she says "She's doing it for the kids" but her actions proves otherwise.

Kate was a "NO SHOW" on the boys special day.

On the kids special day, it was mostly Jon spending time with the kids while Kate was busy talking to co-workers. LOL (Watch Leah's special day). Was it much too hard for Kate to take Leah down the slide once? It was all Jon.

I can go on and and one.

Speaking of reality, where are you getting your hatred for Jon? Fake stories from tabloids or Skanktoro?

Do you also "Hush" you kids by putting your hands on them and physically forming them to be quiet? I have never witness anyone doing that to their kids besides Kate.

Usually, parents tell their kids to be quiet, not physically place their hands over the child's mouth and forcefully "hush" them with an evil look on their face.

The kids "seem" happier with Jon. The look on their face tells you everything. Just compare their interaction with Kate and then with Jon.

Even Mady said "She like daddy better".

And from what I can see, "from their reality show", I don't blame Mady for saying that.

You say she show isn't PROOF of anything, but when Mady said "we do more fun stuff with Mommy", you guys at Radar were gushing over that comment and saying Kate is a better parent because Kate takes them to "funner" places.

But "overall", besides being the "Fun" parent, Jon just seems to be the "hands on" parent. He may be an idiot, but loves his kids and it shows. The kids love him back.

Can't say the same for Kate. She way too into herself.

Anonymous said... [Reply]

itsaboutthekids said...

This is quite a ridiculous accusation, don't you think? No one wants to hurt those children. Quite the opposite.

You might want to click on the link below and read a bit about this. It directly addresses your concern.
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"What If The Kids Read Your Posts? Arent You Hurting Them"

http://preesi.lefora.com/2010/01/28/what-if-the-kids-read-your-posts-arent-you-hurting/?vm=2#post2
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I'll pass, thanks. I've read enough attempts to defend the indefensible on GWOP.

Diane said... [Reply]

Hi Anonymous,

I post here some times. I like JJ's site a lot. I have also been known to post on GWOP. There are certainly some hate kate sites, but, I really wouldn't say that GWOP is one of them.

I don't think that anyone there hopes that the kids have trouble in the future. Most of the posters there are concerned for the kids. Overall, I think, GWOP thinks that TLC screwed the Gosselins. Took advantage of them.

Personally, I don't think Kate looks happy these days. I wish she did. I think Kate could benefit from therapy. I think she has a hard time dealing with those 8 kids and she could use help with it.

I thought Jon and Kate should have done couples therapy, at least. Even if they were getting divorced no matter what. They need to be able to talk with each other and work together to raise those kids. Kate thinks that texting is enough.

Even now, those kids are struggling, according to Kate. In her People mag. new hair story, she even says how the kids are going to start therapy in the next couple of weeks. She found a therapist who would come to their house and do all the kids??? That is better than nothing, but, not ideal for those kids.

It would be best for the kids to go to a therapist office, away from their house, a neutral area. It would be best if each child had their own therapist and that they could form a bond with 'their" therapist.

I wish that I was not concerned that this therapist is a TLC approved therapist and is more concerned with their brand than 8 children.

itsaboutthekids said... [Reply]

"What If The Kids Read Your Posts? Arent You Hurting Them"

http://preesi.lefora.com/2010/01/28/what-if-the-kids-read-your-posts-arent-you-hurting/?vm=2#post2
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I'll pass, thanks. I've read enough attempts to defend the indefensible on GWOP.

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I'm sorry you feel that way, but not surprised. It's an excellent article that gives great information and insight into the narcissistic personality. If you've read enough from GWOP posters I assume you will be leaving this site too.

It would be great if you weren't hiding behind the anonymous id because your thoughts become confused with the other anonymous posters. However, I have no desire to continue this discussion with you and will assume you are gone. Perhaps others posting as anonymous are more interested in an open-minded discussion.

Have a great day!

Not Anonymous said... [Reply]

itsaboutthekids said...


I'm sorry you feel that way, but not surprised. It's an excellent article that gives great information and insight into the narcissistic personality. If you've read enough from GWOP posters I assume you will be leaving this site too.

It would be great if you weren't hiding behind the anonymous id because your thoughts become confused with the other anonymous posters. However, I have no desire to continue this discussion with you and will assume you are gone. Perhaps others posting as anonymous are more interested in an open-minded discussion.

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Hiding behind the "anonymous" label?!? Honey, the name "itsaboutthekids" doesn't exactly reveal who you are. You are just as anonymous as I am. Just for you though, I've picked a name. I will forever be known as Not Anonymous. Happy now?

I'll leave when I choose or when this becomes a moderated blog, not when some bully hiding behind a screen name in cyberspace tells me to do so. Thanks for the suggestion though.

itsaboutthekids said... [Reply]

Sticks and Stones...
Have a nice life

Diane said... [Reply]

Hi Anonymous,

Kaydar is......radaronline. Good luck.

Sage, I have been looking for your blog and have been unable to get to it. Is it not running yet?

jibberjabbers said... [Reply]

Kate is a DANGER to her kids. Please do some research on "narcissism".

Heck, I'll make a post about it.

Not Anonymous said... [Reply]

Hi Diane,

Well, I completely disagree with you about GWOP -- I think that a great many of the posters there hate Kate with a vehemence that I can't begin to fathom and are not remotely concerned with the welfare of the children. Can't disagree with most of the rest of your post though! If most of the GWOP posts were along the lines of your post, I wouldn't have an issue with it. Reasonable people can agree to disagree, etc. What I have a huge problem with is the pure venom and vitriol, the hyperbole, the obsessive analysis of every move the woman makes and the over-investment in the lives of complete strangers. And most of all, I take major exception to anyone claiming that their opinion is "truth."

Not Anonymous said... [Reply]

Kate is a DANGER to her kids. Please do some research on "narcissism".

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I'll leave it to CPS to make that judgment, not to strangers who watch the woman on television. Since CPS has not intervened, at this point I'll assume that they do not feel that Kate is a DANGER to her children. I'm sure some of the cyberstalkers have filed CPS reports and forced them to investigate.

jibberjabbers said... [Reply]

Victims of narcissistic parent(s) don't show signs of trouble until later on in life.

This is why the kids needs therapy.

We already know there is no helping Kate. She is perfect and does no wrong.

jibberjabbers said... [Reply]

http://preesi.lefora.com/2010/01/28/what-if-the-kids-read-your-posts-arent-you-hurting/?vm=2#post2

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Great article! Sheeple wrong bother reading this because they want to continue believing a fairytale.

Anonymous said... [Reply]

jibberjabbers said...
Victims of narcissistic parent(s) don't show signs of trouble until later on in life.

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Yes, I agree with you. Preesi is definitly is presenting narcissistic tendacies. Other signs of mental deteriation also. I am sure you will be there for her. Maybe you guys can be roomies at the "home".

Just think of the group therapy sessions with you 2 in them. I hope your therapist looks like Kate. lol

jibberjabbers said... [Reply]

Slow day at Kaydar? Going thru some Kate Gosselins withdrawal?

sage said... [Reply]

Great article! Sheeple wrong bother reading this because they want to continue believing a fairytale.

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You make a cloying tribute video of Jon with his kids...and you say us "sheeple" believe in fairytales? I wish you would have ended your video with pictures of Jon walking around the property shooting his 38 special. Or how about the knife sticking out of hs dresser. But that wouldn't fit with you preesi's fairytale vision whould it?

Anonymous said... [Reply]

Blah,blah,blah,blah, What matters ,kate the winner,dwarf face JON had to give the money back,she got the home& the children..Blah,blah,blah,the judge seen who the better parent would be,JON didn't choose Kate to take the home & children..Blah,blah,blah,like it or not kate the better parent...

jibberjabbers said... [Reply]

How is taking clips from a reality show and pics from the "paps" and putting it together in a collage a fairytale? LOL

So your family photo album is also a fairytale?

Like I said, you guys are just a little pissed because the kids do look happier with Jon than Kate. I bet it does hurt to see it.

sage said... [Reply]

So your family photo album is also a fairytale?

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The operative word here is family. Jon and Kate are not mine or YOUR family.

Why would I or anybody else be hurt by this?

Only in your mind, JJ...only in your mind.

Not Anonymous said... [Reply]

sage said...

So your family photo album is also a fairytale?

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The operative word here is family. Jon and Kate are not mine or YOUR family.

Why would I or anybody else be hurt by this?

Only in your mind, JJ...only in your mind.

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Thank you. The level of over-investment in the lives of complete strangers is scary as hell. She thinks others would be "hurt" because that's how she would feel if, God forbid, she thought the kids seemed happier with Kate.

I am at a complete loss to understand why this is a freakin' competition. Just because crazy people on the Internet are rabidly on "Team Jon" or "Team Kate" does not mean that the children are acting in an equally idiotic manner. Maybe, just maybe, they love BOTH their parents. What a novel concept.

Diane said... [Reply]

Not Anonymous,

I think the Gosselin children love both of their parents. Personally, I wish Kate looked happy to be with them. Children really do grow up so fast. One minute they are little guys and then they are graduating from high school. It feels like the blink of an eye. It really does.

I'm an older gal (57) with 3 grown sons(25, 29, 34) and 2 small grandsons( 1 1/2 and 3 1/2)It goes by so fast. So, I really wish Kate was enjoying it. I'd feel better if she was.

jibberjabbers said... [Reply]

Funny how the staged video of Kate forcing herself on the kids prove Kate is a better parent according to Kaydar.

Yet, a clip or picture of the kids running to Jon to hug/kiss him is a fairytale. Good one!

What's easier to stage? Kate forcing herself on Colin for damage control?

Or, Hannah & Mady running to Jon with a big smile on their face to hug him?

Exactly.

lukebandit said... [Reply]

It is wonderful to see these kids RUN to their dad to hug him, but so sad to know what kate has done to them after Robert's book came out about kate beating them during potty training and still beating them. They are getting older now and one of them is going to grab it and a couple of them will push her down. Go Gosselin 8! They have a right to defend themselves!

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